Flat towing vs. tow dolly vs. trailered

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Flat towing vs. tow dolly vs. trailered

Postby scumby » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:44 am

sooo, which is it? what are you doing? advantages/disadvantages?

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Postby bobracing » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:03 am

Trailer: it hauls broken rigs and doesn't put miles on a $1200+ set of tires but is heavier, needed tabs, and some place to park it.
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Postby tobyw » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:08 am

bobracing wrote:Trailer: it hauls broken rigs and doesn't put miles on a $1200+ set of tires but is heavier, needed tabs, and some place to park it.


x2 on all above. I'm 100% pro trailer, but I have flat towed several times for non-wheeling related trips.
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Postby TJDave » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:36 am

I flat towed for a few years. A little less weight to pull, but I was always worried about breaking something (D35 then) and not being able to tow it home. It was hard on the front tires, and you can't back up.
The owners manual on a Tj says not to use a dolly. Something about one end spinning, and one end not.... wrecking the TC. Might not be an issue with an Atlas and locking hubs. Still can't back up.
For the price of a good tow bar set up and a supplimental brake system, you can pick up a good used trailer.
The trailer is much better than flat towing. I can back it up, unload the Jeep, then BBQ on it!
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Postby tobyw » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:24 am

TJDave wrote: then BBQ on it!


If for no other reason than this, the decision should be obvious :lol:
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Postby scumby » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:32 pm

who's got the best price on trailers?

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Postby mattawajeep » Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:10 pm

scumby wrote:who's got the best price on trailers?


Craigslist. I wouldn't buy new, unless you're getting a really good deal.

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Postby Yrjan » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:35 pm

I just so happen to have one that would fit your needs perfectly. It's 16' long (perfect for a TJ, not so perfect for a JKU...) make you a good deal on it. It's parked in front of my house if you wanna take a look. I'm interested in selling it so I can buy one just a smidge longer.

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Postby Jay W » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:53 pm

mattawajeep wrote:
scumby wrote:who's got the best price on trailers?


Craigslist. I wouldn't buy new, unless you're getting a really good deal.

I think just the opposite. People selling trailers on Craigslist want 95% of new price for a 10 year old trailer. I would shop new and get what you want.

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Postby mattawajeep » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:04 pm

Jay W wrote:
mattawajeep wrote:
scumby wrote:who's got the best price on trailers?


Craigslist. I wouldn't buy new, unless you're getting a really good deal.

I think just the opposite. People selling trailers on Craigslist want 95% of new price for a 10 year old trailer. I would shop new and get what you want.


It's like just about anything. Do you want it fast or cheap. I thought the same on trailers as well, but all it took was another set of eyes looking to find something cheaper.

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Postby scumby » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:29 pm

Yrjan wrote:I just so happen to have one that would fit your needs perfectly. It's 16' long (perfect for a TJ, not so perfect for a JKU...) make you a good deal on it. It's parked in front of my house if you wanna take a look. I'm interested in selling it so I can buy one just a smidge longer.

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belive I'll do a drive by. Price?

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Postby Yrjan » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:36 am

As far as price goes, do a drive by first. It has newer axles but is in need of tires. Price is negotiable if your interested we'll talk.

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Postby scumby » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:40 am

Yrjan wrote:As far as price goes, do a drive by first. It has newer axles but is in need of tires. Price is negotiable if your interested we'll talk.


sounds good, i'll be snooping around. any angry dogs or neighbors with guns i need to know of?

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Postby Yrjan » Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:51 am

Nope

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Postby Wrench » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:00 am

Trailer.

Besides what has already been mentioned, you also CAN'T back up when flat-towing or using a dolly.

Craigslist prices seem to be a bit high, usually. And for anything over 6 years old, plan on budgeting for new tires.
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Postby OldGreen » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:38 am

I've done both with great results but. . .trailer if you have the tow rig to do it.

I did the round trip to Moab over Thanksgiving towing the XJ with the WK2. Worked perfectly. BUT. . .if something breaks. . .

I'm not concerned about backing up. Just the breaking thing and the tires.

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Postby pascoscout » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:39 am

Trailer hands down. With a dolly you still have to store it and its useless for anything but towing cars. I bought my trailer thinking I would only use if for my Scout or 4runner since I have the pick-up but I find I use it a ton (my friends use it a ton too :? ) Also if you have minions you can also put a couple dirt bikes or ATV's on the trailer for them.

There's a place out of Yakima that pops up on craiglist searches for trailers and seems to have good prices for new. I haven't been there to actually inspect the quality though. With the prices they list I have to imagine the trailers are possibly mass produced outside the US. Been looking at it since I've been considering selling my 7k rated 18 footer for a 10K rated trailer as I find myself towing tractors more than cars....

Good deals on used do pop up from time to time, but be sure to inspect them closely. Things like bent axels and broken welds are common. Consider the condition of the deck, rotted or severly cracked boards will need to be replaced. Badly bent or cracked boards can also be a sign the trailer has been overloaded, which can lead to other issues. Check the wiring and brake system (you do want a brake system) to be sure it works properly.

Be wary of someone's home made farm trailer. It takes some skill to get a trailer set up right to tow straight and turn properly (no to mention distrubute the load correctly). Home made ones also tend to use mobile home axels, which can have odd ball tires and wheels, and the load rating is really high for something primarily towing cars so they bounce around alot. While they made be a good deal sometimes the home made ones are more trouble than thier worth.

I'd also plan to at the least remove, inspect and repack the wheel bearings (replace if needed) as alot of people neglect to maintain them properly. Also as mentioned before its likely to need new tires, don't want them to be more then 7 years old... ask me how I know :(

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Postby Livin4Today » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:03 pm

When I was looking last year I came across an outfit near Bend, OR (I'll see if I can find the link) that will build you a trailer to your specs for about $2500. Now I was pricing a rig to pull my JKU, so I was looking for an 18-20 footer, and they'll set it up for WA with brakes on both axles.

If you do look into any trailers in OR check to see that both axles have brakes because OR only requires the front axle to be braked...
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Postby scumby » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:49 pm

good info to know on WA vs OR rules. what is the Law on flat towing, I hear people speeking of brake assisted?

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Postby scumby » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:11 pm

OK, the trailer it is. and now that brings us to proportional brake control or time delayed with user supplied braking adjusted to a specific level, percentage wise. i'm leaning towrds proportional. what's in you tow pig?

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Postby pascoscout » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:50 pm

Mine has the controler that sets the time delay and braking pressure. It works fine when I take the time to adjust it, but it has to be adjusted every time I change the weight on the trailer.

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Postby SPR » Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:15 pm

Tekonsha® 90195 - P3™ Electronic Brake Control

Works well and is simple to install and operate.
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Postby Wrench » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:53 am

The P3 is the premium setup, it pretty much adjusts itself.

The Primus IQ is the mid-grade one, and i have one on hand. They retail for $125. Once they are adjusted to a specific trailer, they shouldnt need adjustment again.

I stick with Tekonsha, they have a good warranty and reputation.

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Postby OldGreen » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:45 am

What they said. . .I used a time delay with a little single axle trailer and it works fine, but the proportional set up is the way to go pulling 7klbs of Jeep.

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Postby scumby » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:26 am

Tekonsha® 90195 - P3™ Electronic Brake Control ordered.


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